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Tacktick compass
I am thinking of buying a tacktick compass, how have other users fitted them to their boats for EASE of use. I have seen one using a ? carbon fibre bridge effect across the deck half way between the thwart and mast. Is this legal ( Gordon ) or any super ideas ?
I have a wooden Thresher.
Ian 3712 |
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Dear Ian,
I asked this question myself (see Equipment heading string 9.1.2003). I received an excellent response from Ian Whitehouse. To qoute:
"There are a number of brackets available to mount this on the back of the mast. Unfortunately if you do this you will have a problem with your control lines, cunningham and outhaul, fouling the compass. Here is a way to avoid this. Go to B and Q, find the section where the bathroom extractor fans are, find the plastic ducting which is basically box section ducting about 4” by 2”, find the fitting which is used to connect 2 lengths of ducting together. Buy it. You now have a bit of 4” by 2” box section plastic about 2” long. Mount this box section on the rear of the mast gate, now mount the plastic bit the compass clips into onto the back of the box section. Now feed your control lines through the box section and reconnect. Now go sailing!"
Since then there have been several additional brackets on the market at different prices. Winder has recently developed one as has Gosling and several others. I looked at these recently when changing boats but decided to stay with pPlastic ducting. It works, it looks OK, and its cheap!
Just for information I find the tacktick is very useful on open water, but at Open meetings on much of the Northern and Midland Circuit I often don't even fit it to the boat as there are land reference points to estimate the size of windshifts.
Hope this helps,
Ian |
Tactic do various brackets, several of which would be easy to fit to a wooden boat- check LDC or Rooster websites for mail order. My boat has two "L" shaped arms coming forward from the c/board case with a standard tactic fitting at the top. Gordon may know where this came from? It had an old style compass on it , but the new one fitted with no alteration. There really is no need for a carbon thing to be made when you can get an "ex-works" fitting off the shelf. Hope this helps.
Rob.E 4210 |
Hi Ian,
I don't know if you saw the one I was using at Abersoch, you were certainly close enough at times. It is the old style flat face Tacktick with it's own alloy bracket that is mounted via a slug in the mast track. There is no problem with control lines fouling as they go behind the compass and between the two arms of the bracket. I have located a second hand one for sale if you are interested and will e-mail you the details.
Mark Sherwen Solo 4524 |
To one and all, regarding the addition of various fittings to your Solo, please remember that the Solo is a "one design" class therefore if it is not stated it is not allowed.
The only fittings allowed are listed in Measurement Rule Part B - 6 or shown on the plans. If a fitting is not itemised in B-6 or on the plans then it is not allowed.
The foregoing Rule is published in your Yearbook.
Ron Green |
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Hi Ron,
I understand that one is allowed one (and indeed more) compass and one is allowed fittings to secure loose equipment... There is no definition/description of how that loose equipment should be secured and hence a large degree of latitude allowed within the rules. I believe that all of those compass fittings described above have been past the measurers at major championships.
Gordon is most attentive about such matters.
With best wishes,
Ian |
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Thanks for your thoughts. I can see what you mean Ian by looking at Spuds boat.
All I need now is someone with one to sell ! somebody out there must have one lying in their garage not being used ?
Ian 3712 |
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| Ho, Ho, Ho. The season of good cheer is amongst us, Merry Christmas to all my readers incidently. Now Ian, just because Gordon has become chief measurer, beware! Talk about Poacher becoming Game keeper. Gordon's forte' is that he knows all the gizzmos and more but as the proverbial moth approaches the flame, he studies them thar rules and utlilises em. I don't trust a bloke with a watering sytem on board tied up to a bilge pump with an associated hydrometer (both sides of the boat that is) He's very wary in the dingy park and as a lock on is boat cover. Merry Christmas. I shan't be sending cards this year by the way, I've found I need the money more than they do. JonaFun. |
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Now there is a thought John... Could one have a system to pump water (for the use of) from a leeward to the windward water bottle? After all that's where the dehydrating helm would be.
Merry Christmas!
Ian |
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Items listed in the list of fixtures and fittings can not be considered to be " loose equipment" other than the booming out spar . A compass is a listed item, a bracket specifically manufactured by the compass supplier for that compass and supplied by them can legitimately be considered to be part of that compass. Loose items are interpreted as being removed from the boat to be used such as a paddle, water bottles, bailer, the booming out spar or even an anchor when required, and would certainly not be applied to the compass. It is difficult to envisage what else would be required while racing
Ron Green |
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| Thank you Ron for such an explicit explanation! Am I getting old or what? I thought the topic was the TacTic compass and the method of fitting the same. I appreciated ages ago that there was no advantage to be gained by fitting the Tactic or additional cordage if so Gordon would have been champion years ago or might even have won the occasional race. Regarding items seen as essential accessories I'm having considerable difficulty in convincing my parrot that it has to be lashed to the boat rather than perched on my shoulder. Then there is the problem with my wooden leg and crutch where should these be stowed, are they seen as additional floatage ?. New rules applied this October for the disadvantaged does the Association rule book encompass these changes? Merry Christmas. Long John Silver |
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John, I detect a tongue in cheek of a size to rival Michael Palin's Himalayas, hence no other reply. Happy Christmas from the Chichester Harbour brigade.
Gordon |
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| You've been "sussed" Gordon, Ian's showing an interest in your swinging a bottle on a string system. Presently he's scanning the "Net" for more info but he'll want to see inside your boat at Chew.// It's also time for you to declare a pecuniary interest in Tac-Tic sales promotion, I'll declare my interest in waste pipe fittings.// Does the Chichester harbour brigade have a commodore or a brigadier as Officer Commanding? Last but not least tongue in cheek? beware at Chew, could be painful. LJS. |
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| I've told em before Ron, if it aint in the book ya can'y av it. No one listens to me these days. Now Ron tell us more about this compass and it's fittings. What can I protest em about? I need all the elp I can get the Winters is approaching at Chew and I'm going to look in their boats! Uncle John |
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If you look on page 26 of the Autumn newsletter, you will see a picture of the fitting I was referring to, on Gordons boat, exactly as it is on my boat, (Gordons old boat). I presume this is legal?
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If you look on page 26 of the Autumn newsletter, you will see a picture of the fitting I was referring to, on Gordons boat, exactly as it is on my boat, (Gordons old boat). I presume this is legal?
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Robert, you will be relieve to know that your pattern was approved by Jim Gates, the Chief Measurer and now Technical Advisor, about 7 years ago.
Gordon S4465 |
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| Dear Gordon, we will all be very relieved once we get regulating Ron's reliable response. Is he being TacTic-al on this issue? We need to know weither it's the drain pipe or the all in(compassin) TacTic which is the issue. And I need to know before the Winter's at Chew! Where I shall be selling snap locks for boat covers, all very reasonably priced, wind and weather pruuffed. your ever adventuresome pirate long John's Back |
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